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Brenda Robb's avatar

"But wrapping itself in Union flags is not the answer. Updating our democracy could help open up the debate – a fairer voting system, far-reaching devolution of power to English regions and communities, and ultimately a properly federal state and an English parliament"

I agree, I think the only way labour can make some headway is by updating democracy, not just introducing some form of PR and setting rules about donations, but by drawing up a formal constitution to limit damage by malign actors, and by working with all 4 nations to establish a federal system which no one nation can dominate and from which there is an agreed exit process. Trying to impose Britishness on the devolved nations while conflating British and Englishness is a recipe for disaster. Starmer has a chance to make history and to transform the country but has he the wit to seize his opportunity?

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Rick Jones's avatar

The England flag - the Cross of St. George. George was not English, in fact he never came anywhere near England. He was from the Middle East, and today would probably be described as Palestinian. He was a Roman soldier (the Romans recruited locally in territories they ruled). The Romans were notorious for the oppression and persecution of minorities, and the army was a key part of that. But George didn't agree with it, and refused to carry out such orders, eventually being executed for his moral stance (~300 CE). That led to his canonisation by the church (some 200 yrs later), and adoption by England as our patron saint (early c16) because he represents the true values of England - inclusion, diversity, and respect for others. So the English St. George's Cross In fact represents the exact opposite of the ideas promoted by the disrespectful flag shaggers.

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